Cyrill Vatomsky, Where All Politics Are Global

I did plan to talk about stuff other than immigration, like the two punch bags Steve Wesley and Phil Angelines that are punching each other hard, trying to get the Democrat party nomination to run for Governor in California.  But, since all are still talking about immigration, and what is good for the goose, and Limbaugh sure is the goose of the market, then it probably is good for a duck like me…

I was driving to the station to get ready for the show when I heard a caller to Limbaugh’s show take him to the cleaners, rip him to shreds because she attacked him from his own position of free market and capitalism, ideas that do not correlate well with the close the borders and let’s have our kids work hard physical labour or at fast food joints instead of using their Linux or PHP skills to perform more valuable tasks. Just because we worked hard as kids… Never mind that this country is developing so fast that most places on in the world can barely see tail lights! And it is no wonder that immigrants like myself do anything we can to grab the last handle of the caboose flying by us and try to hold on to it and be on that train to the future.

So the caller took him to the task on the free market capitalist platform. He totally deserved that I might add. Her point in a nutshell was that without an inflow of new labor the economy is not going to be able to sustain itself and retiring baby boomers whose greatest achievement in this country was to create a giant welfare hummock for themselves.

She was absolutely correct pointing out that one of the major reasons illegals do not assimilate is because they are illegal and there is nothing to assimilate into. It was so educational top hear Limbaugh’s silence and initial platitude responses, because, and I have experience with this, being on the radio and being a professional interpreter, I could just feel Limbaugh’s brain feverishly scrambling in search of the platform to response. He was not ready for this at all.

Limbaugh unloaded on the caller with the most charged and skewed accusation, a very sorry moment for him I am sure. He accused the caller to selfishly wish for a permanent underclass. This is a totally fallacious idea. Limbaugh himself never had a problem countering this egalitarian mindset when he would talk about minimum wage, but this time, since she successfully knocked the free market stool from under him, he was left hanging dry.

So sad when you see things like that, when people like Limbaugh or Dobbs suddenly bend out of shape and abandon their supposedly free market ideas.

Michelle Malkin ion her blog points out that "There have been seven illegal alien amnesties passed into law since 1986:" And none of them stopped the flow. Michelle, none of them ever will stop the flow. Any laws that violate natural laws of supply and demand will fail to curtail immigration, just as this one will, and just as the Tancredo sealing up the border will. No country is immune to supremacy of economic laws, not the USSR not the USA.  This is like stepping on a collective rake over and over again, and still wonder why is the collective nose bleeding. Instead of supporting silly unenforceable laws, we should listen to Larry Kudlow said in National Review

It is the law of supply demand that pushes all these people across the border. Anti-immigration laws that do not recognise it are trying to limit supply while demand is evergrowing.  Rossputin.com nails the problem:

Minimum wage laws force those companies unwilling to accept a floor on pay to skirt the law and hire illegal workers. The illegal immigrant problem grows from the tenets of the free market system. Illegal workers have shown us that two consenting parties can determine a fair wage for agreed upon work better than the government can, and that they will even in the face of consequences.

Some stuff above did not get into the final edited version of the podcast because then came callers. 

Some good examples of previous negative attitudes towards immigrants came from another call which prompted me to reference Thomas Sowell’s Black Rednecks and White Liberals. Negative attitudes towards immigrants from recent immigrants are well known. But Sowell suggests that some of these attitudes were based in reality. Poorly uneducated Irish or Central European immigrants were less ready to assimilate into this country. And from this historic perspective, the backlash at Mexican immigrants for apparently having even less of a desire to assimilate, while waving Mexican Flags, and shouting viva Mexico and viva la raza, is completely normal and understandable.

The there is a question of protecting American jobs. Now my question is who owns these jobs? I have yet to find a coherent answer to this.  

There seems to be hell of a lot of either misunderstanding or ignorance on the issue of immigration vs. citizenship. Kennedy and Feinstein have been definately confusing the two terms. And now, especially with only editorialized excerpts from the proposed compromise available for quoting, it appears that not only our congressmen and senators do not know how this works. Here is Conservative Outpost quoting Washington Times:

The new plan would allow illegal aliens who have been in the United States for more than five years to remain in the country working while applying for U.S. citizenship.

And then sardonically comments:

Hmmm. It would allow some illegal aliens to stay while applying for citizenship???

Does it look like the law is changing the current immigration process and makes it easier? I sincerely doubt it. Only LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENTS of the US are allowed to apply for citizenship. I know this, this is how I became a citizen. Does it seem a bit hystterical for Washington Times to imply that illegasl aliens will be allowed to get citizenship? Just like with the Dubai Port deal.

And eventually, I got to Larry Kudlow’s article in the National Review. Larry Kudlow I think is one of the most brilliant and most keep minds available int his country in public arena. In this article Larry Kudlow illustrates the point I tried to make many times: if you try to make laws that contradict the basic market relationship between humans, you will fail. It is the market that serves as a magnet to immigration and to resolve this situation,  we should be expanding our H1B and H2B visa programs, not cutting off immigration like the last caller seemed to want to suggest that we have way too many people here.